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THE ASTRONOMER Electronic Circular No 2017      2004 Jly 23 19.49UT
Ed:Guy M Hurst, 16,Westminster Close, Kempshott Rise,  Basingstoke,
Hants, RG22 4PP,England.Telephone/FAX(01256)471074Int:+441256471074
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SUPERNOVA 2004db IN NGC 7377
IAUC 8361 carried details of a possible LOSS supernova discovery on 
images of June 28.43 and 29.41 UT at about magnitude 17.8 at:
RA 22h 47m 55.88s DEC -22 19'40.5" (2000). 115.5"E and 57.3"S of the 
nucleus of NGC 7377.

A supernova designation was not initially assigned due to the 
uncertainty of the nature of this object. However subsequently Tom 
Matheson et. al., Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics advise (on 
IAUC 8372) that J. Huchra obtained a spectrum on July 10.46UT indicating 
it is a type-Ia supernova several weeks past maximum.

SUPERNOVA 2004dc IN IC 1504
LOSS discovery of a possible supernova (IAUC 8372):
SN      2004 UT        R.A.  (2000.0)  Decl.   Mag.     Offset
2004dc  June 29.46   23 41 18.47  +04 01 06.3  19.5 14.8"W, 3.5" N

EDITORIAL NOTICE
Since my return from holidays in Dubrovnik, Bosnia and Montenegro, I 
have been endeavouring to clear the inevitable large backlog of e-mails 
and ordinary post. There remain about 300 messages still to be actioned, 
as non-astronomical work during this last week has prevented a major 
clearance. If you have an urgent message for which a reply has not been 
received please re-submit with the word 'URGENT' in the subject line.

Guy M Hurst